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  • Sep. 8th, 2007 at 11:13 PM
Golden Sun & Star
With Empire of the Ghouls designed and off to editing and production, it's time to figure out what's what for OD4.

While EotG was big and fun, writing it took too long. It also grew a little larger than the patron format really supports. So my goal for OD4 is that it should be much, much shorter and faster than Empire was. In addition, I'm tweaking the patronage levels for this one in an effort to keep the project small.

I'd like to have something in the patrons' hands no later than January 31st. This implies a length no longer than 20,000 or 25,000 words, or about the size of a Gamemastery module. There are two options on the table:

1) Adventures in Zobeck, Part 1
This is the first of two or three projects describing the city-state. Based on the patron poll from the spring, the two most popular topics are:

  • Spells & Magic, which would include clockwork magic, new incantations, some gearcraft, oracles, and Star & Shadow magic, and
  • Places & Adventure, which would be hooks, major adventuring locales like the Arcane Collegium, the Kobold Ghetto, Underwharf, Grave of Velas, the mines at Hammerheim, and so on.
I propose combining those two categories as the subject of this project.

The Zobeck project specifically does NOT include PC rules, the setting backstory, random city NPCs, religion, nearby lands, or new monsters. Those are all Zobeck Part 2 and/or Part 3. It may or may not contain a full overview map of the city or with specific adventure locales mapped, depending on funding (more likely, maps will be part of Part 2).

This is an OGL project using the 3.5 rules. It's possible that the parts would all be compiled, updated to 4E, and offered for sale to the public as a 4E book in 2009, if all the parts are complete by then. Heck, it might be the first Open Design hardback.

Artists are TBD (but Lucas Haley, Cris Griffin, and Eva Widermann will be asked), and there may be some back-and-forth with current KQ articles. Contributions and feedback from all patrons, not just the inner circle, with an even more collaborative style than the current bunch.

To be a patron of this project, the requested donation is $100, $50, or $25. The funding goal is $4,000, to cover art, maps, text, and other expenses. If we fail to secure funding by October 15th or if the Arabian project is funded first, you will get a full refund.

$100 Donation        $50 Donation        $25 Donation

2) Six Arabian Nights
This would be a short adventure or adventure anthology adaptable for low to mid levels (1 to 10?). The style would be episodic, with short pieces chosen by the patrons that could be one-shots in any campaign, very plug-and-play: preventing the assassination of a djinni vizier, visiting a harem in a flying castle, defeating demonic pirates, hatching a phoenix egg, fighting dark monstrosities deep in an ancient temple.

I hope to cross Indiana Jones with Clark Ashton Smith and see what comes of it. Call it the "Scimitars Against the Dark" style of heroic fantasy. None of these adventures would have more than 3 encounters to keep the word count somewhere near 20,000 to 25,000 words. The goal is short, flexible adventures for a wide level range.

This project includes one new genie and maybe some sha'ir rules, if I can't find any Open ones I like. It is an OGL project using the 3.5 rules. I'll do a 4E set of stats next year if patron fund that work; I'd be happy to compile a 4E conversion by patrons as well.

I'll be approaching some possible Al-Qadim-era collaborators. Though I can't guarantee their involvement yet, I'll be talking to the artist Karl Waller and seeking intros, monsters, or scenarios from Steven Kurtz, Zeb Cook, and Jeff Grubb. In addition, the smaller circle of patrons means I'll be opening up the design to closer collaboration with patrons.

To be a patron of this project, the requested donation is $100, $50, or $25. The funding goal is $3,000, to cover design, art, maps, collaborators, and other expenses. If we fail to secure funding by October 15th or if the Zobeck project is funded first, you will get a full refund.

$100 Donation        $50 Donation        $25 Donation

3) To Support Either of the Above
If you don't really care which one wins and you definitely want to be involved, you can pledge your support unconditionally with this option. Naturally, you can vote for your favorite, but this is the "I like both Zobeck and the Arabian Nights" option.

You will be a patron no matter which project is funded by October 15th. If neither project reaches its goal, you will get a full refund.

$100 Donation        $50 Donation        $25 Donation

I hope you will join me for the next round of Open Design!

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[info]mark_gedak wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 04:13 am (UTC)
Back...
I'm in.
[info]ephealy wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 04:26 am (UTC)
I'm in. Sent you an email.

Damn, Mark beat me to the #1 slot! :P
[info]eyebite79 wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 05:40 am (UTC)
I'm in too, for either one.
[info]mouseferatu wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 06:14 am (UTC)
I'm in.

I've gotta say, I really think, at the present time, the Arabian Nights are a better bet. Adventures, at least in concept if not in mechanics, won't be made obsolete by the coming edition. While the same is true of the "Places and Adventures" section of Zobeck part 1, it's not so much for the other part.

I would like to see Zobeck done eventually, don't get me wrong. But I think it's better served by waiting until you can do it with the current edition in mind.
[info]mouseferatu wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 06:16 am (UTC)
I will confess that the above argument may be biased by the fact that while I do want to see Zobeck, I'm more interested in the Arabian adventures. ;-)

Nevertheless, I think the logic is sound.
[info]varianor wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 04:08 pm (UTC)
I second this. (Also as I'm reading City of Brass and would love to do something from Open Design at conventions in 2008.) October 15...watch it be October 14....
[info]richgreen01 wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 06:19 am (UTC)
Arabian Nights please!
I'm running an FR game at the moment with lots of genies, blade saints and genasi in it, and am currently reading Necromancer's City of Brass too. Would love to see Arabian adventures now and Zobeck later.
[info]joshuarandall wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
I third this, with the caveat that while adventures are always useful even across settings, it's a pain in the rear to try to convert them to a new ruleset. So if it's Arabian Nights, I'd _really_ like to see an update to 4e in the future.
[info]sgstyrsky wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
Arabian Nights
Let's hear it for desert dunes, oasis cities, and the fabulous treasures of the djinn.
[info]highmoonmedia wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 02:57 pm (UTC)
I'm in. In a few days, but I'm in. Will we be able to upgrade membership, Wolfgang?
[info]open_design wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 03:33 pm (UTC)
Yes! Upgrades are always possible, just use the word "upgrade" in the notes field.
[info]declench wrote:
Sep. 10th, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC)
While I would love to see more Zobeck stuff, I couldn't resist the Arabian Nights adventures. That sounds like a lot of fun!
(Anonymous) wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 12:52 am (UTC)
Arabian Nights? Now that's what I've been waiting for! Count me in!
[info]troyluginbill wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 02:30 am (UTC)
I'd be in for either but most interested in the Zobeck parts. It would be like building on a great opportunity as opposed to being scattershot in approach. While the arabian nights one sounds cool, you already have a great product with zobeck.
[info]metawidget wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 03:09 am (UTC)
Low-level vignettes and demon pirates, please :)

(But if the demon pirates are just beyond the underwharf, waiting for upstart PCs [and stats], I'm cool with Zobeck, too)
[info]amnuxoll wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 05:00 am (UTC)
Donation levels
Is there any difference between the 3 donation levels this time?
[info]open_design wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 05:04 am (UTC)
Re: Donation levels
I'll think of something, but I'm trying to avoid having an inner and outer circle this time. Instead, I may take monsters or spell suggestions from the major patrons, or offer them first shot at playtest slots, or something.

So no, at the moment I haven't differentiated them. I expect there will be some difference down the road.
[info]nasrat wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 07:03 am (UTC)
Looking forward to it and cast my lot in for Arabian Adventures.
[info]jim_clunie wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 10:25 am (UTC)
Clark Ashton Smith? Sold.
[info]joshuarandall wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 05:32 pm (UTC)
Suppose I want to support Project X over Project Y, but I don't want to get shut out if Project Y ends up being the one. Should I click one of the project specific links, and will I be able to buy into the other project later?
[info]avidreader514 wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 05:40 pm (UTC)
I picked the "Both" option, but added a note confirming that Zobeck was my first choice. That oughta do it.
[info]open_design wrote:
Sep. 11th, 2007 05:45 pm (UTC)
Yep, that's it exactly. The "one project only" options are really for people who have a strong preference and want a refund if their option doesn't win.

The "Either" option gives you a vote for preference, but guarantees you a seat either way.
[info]zibeck wrote:
Sep. 12th, 2007 04:08 am (UTC)
If anyone wants to donote an extra $25, they can do so on my behalf. :-)
[info]galip wrote:
Sep. 13th, 2007 12:34 pm (UTC)
The outline for Arabian Nights sounds very cool - I hope it wins!
[info]open_design wrote:
Sep. 13th, 2007 02:25 pm (UTC)
The odds are definitely in the Arabian Nights favor right now.
[info]bullonir wrote:
Sep. 13th, 2007 03:14 pm (UTC)
Wow.

Zobeck is losing. I didn't think I'd see this.

Bummer.

Hi Wolfgang,
I voted for Zobeck only (campaign reasons). BUT I might be swayed for Arabian Nights later on depending...

I guess we will see.

But you do realize now that you said AA was first that the wind will change...:)

Patrick
[info]open_design wrote:
Sep. 13th, 2007 04:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm quite surprised as well, though many of the votes have said "I'd rather have Zobeck be 4E, and small adventures are very useful."

And you're right, now that I've said it in public, watch the winds shift.
[info]1001bobs wrote:
Sep. 19th, 2007 04:21 pm (UTC)
I payed for either option just let me in :) I vote for Arabian Nights, I could use a short one off or two to run with my F2F group and this would be a great little gem to get them out of our big campaign for a session or two.