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Open Design 5: Blood of the Gorgon

  • Jan. 17th, 2008 at 9:36 AM
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So, the news has leaked in the podcast and over at KQ.com, and it's time to announce Open Design 5, better known as Blood of the Gorgon.

You need to know two things: It's a 3E dark urban adventure set in Zobeck, and the author is Nicolas Logue, of Eberron and Pathfinder fame. I'm pulling development duties on this one, so it's not a complete departure, but I have a lot of respect for how Mr. Logue crafts his adventures, and I think patrons may enjoy hearing his take on design issues.

Many, many more details on theme, topic, and so forth are over at the KQ.com site, plus a podcast over at The Tome Show where Mr. Logue discusses it. Or, if you know you're in (and really, this is going to be an astounding adventure, from everything I've seen so far), you can sign up now, and bombard Mr. Logue with requests right away.

As always, the project includes daily posts and discussion, five design essays discussing horror, mystery adventures, storytelling, and other topic. It also offers playtest opportunities and up-close Q&A of the design choices made for the adventure. The final design will ship to patrons on or around May 1st, as a full-color PDF with a print option available.

You can support this Open Design project today for $25 (€17) for the basic membership. Members who contribute at least $75 (€50) gain additional access to the design process, such as manuscript access and additional posts and commentary. If the commission is not met by February 29th you will receive a prompt and full refund. On March 1st, the price to join the project goes up to $35 (€24) or $100 (€68), so join today.

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[info]siobharek wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 07:47 pm (UTC)
Uhm, are we Europeans SUPPOSED to pay in Euros? Because that's a very, very bad deal for some of us.
[info]open_design wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:09 pm (UTC)
If you aren't in the Eurozone, then pay in whatever currency you like. If you are in the currency zone, please pay in Euros (it prevents the need to pay bigger transaction fees to PayPal).

The Euro price is pretty much at the standard exchange rate (or I thought it was....)
(no subject) - [info]siobharek - Jan. 17th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC) Expand
The Great British Pound - [info]richgreen01 - Jan. 17th, 2008 08:10 pm (UTC) Expand
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[info]innercaine wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
Can't wait
I'm new to the Open Design gang, and this will be my first opportunity to get in on the ground floor of a project.

Looks like I have a little time to decide what level of patronage I am going to partake in..

I'd love to hear some comments from the $75.00 Patron folks, first hand, about how the experience was for them, particularly in comparison to Basic Membership.

Jim / Watcher on Paizo's Boards.
[info]mark_gedak wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:14 pm (UTC)
Re: Can't wait
Hi Watcher,

I've been a patron on all of the Open Design projects so far. What a patron's benefits were changed somewhat from project to project. Universally, being a patron means you get early peeks at the design process and can make comments that may shape it. It has also included a number of design essays.

In some OD projects we submitted monster wishlists, or voted on the topic of the OD project. In open design #1 I voted for the Lost City adventure, but the voting went to Steam and Brass instead.

In some OD projects we have had access to the working doc to look through in a googledocs sharing file.

In some OD projects we selected levels for the adventure.
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[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
What Makes the Grass Grow: BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!
Hey All!

Just wanted to pop in and say aloha! Looking forward to jumping into a big steaming vat of gorgon blood with you all!

Nick
[info]kunger00 wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
I'm unclear
Wolfgang,

I'm not certain I understand this correctly, but is this OD project more of a spectator sport than previous projects?

Also, can I infer that based on the design essays that this is going to be an urban mystery adventure of some sort? Because if it is, I will definitely join. There aren't enough mystery adventures in my opinion.
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
Re: I'm unclear
Urban Mystery It Shall Be!!!

Also, I'm hoping this will NOT be a spectator sport unless you don't want to chime in. I'll be available nearly every day to comment and rap about the process and work with patrons to deliver an adventure that warms the cockles even as it chills the soul.
Re: I'm unclear - [info]innercaine - Jan. 17th, 2008 08:56 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: I'm unclear - [info]saint_demain - Jan. 17th, 2008 09:00 pm (UTC) Expand
Re: I'm unclear - [info]kunger00 - Jan. 17th, 2008 09:23 pm (UTC) Expand
[info]ampherion wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:53 pm (UTC)
I'm in.
[info]siobharek wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
I really look forward to being part of this - even just at a basic level. My express goal will be to tip it in the direction of Ptolus - which I suspect won't affect the adventure that much. And to make sure all the spells available to the PCs are taken into account. Having written a murder mystery meself (Circle of Rites for Arcana Evolved), I know it's important, and I could gather from the podcast that you do too, Nick.
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 09:02 pm (UTC)
Totally siobharek! It's not about NOT letting the PCs do things. It's all about having villains who are brilliant and try to stay a step ahead of divination and other such nasty spells. Though, they always help out, they don't break the mystery completely with one casting. I'm very pumped to work with you my man! Where can I check out "Circle of Rites"?

Oh, and Welcome Onboard everyone!
[info]siobharek wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
Send me a mail at soren.thustrup (at) gmail.com

Or get it here: http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=3434&it=1&filters=0_0_0&manufacturers_id=14

But seriously, just write me ;-)
[info]thestinkypete wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
I'm in for. Should be a lot of fun. Look forward to Nicolas Logue's design essays.
[info]chieroscuro wrote:
Jan. 17th, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)
Fun times. Gritty urban goodness in the Clockwork City... How can I turn down the opportunity to, at least in some respect, consider myself Nick Logue's employer? After this, I can point to his name on books and say, "See him? He works fer me!"

Fantastic
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 03:11 am (UTC)
Need some more coffee boss? :-)
[info]coffeesucker wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 12:29 am (UTC)
Stoked to be onboard!
I joined up earlier today and am just giddy with excitement about working with all of the patrons and our great designer, Nick! This is my first time doing anything on this scale and it's gonna be a bunch of fun.
-g-
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 03:11 am (UTC)
Re: Stoked to be onboard!
Ha! Never fear coffeesucker...this is my first time too! We'll both be gentle!!! ;-)

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to learning from the patrons even as I do my best to show the innards of the design process to you all.

Rock!
[info]coffeesucker wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 03:20 am (UTC)
Can't wait to see your ideas, brother! It's gonna be a team effort with you as QB!
-g-
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 08:49 am (UTC)
Dang...I played offensive and defensive tackle (GRID IRON!). But hey, I can chuck the ball if I have to! Go deep team!
[info]wills4223 wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 10:16 am (UTC)
I very much have enjoyed your past work and I can't wait to see what you do with this idea.
[info]garnfellow wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC)
Dear Nick Logue,

You are one sick bastard.

And I appreciate that in a designer.

I loved what you did with ogres in the Hook Mountain Massacre.

The whole 4e swirl has actually filled me with something of a D&D malaise. Add in that I've been a patron on all previous Open Design Projects, am a Pathfinder and KQ subscriber, and bought a bunch of Green Ronin stuff in their great fire sale, and I was seriously thinking about skipping the next Open Design project.

And now I'm back in. You bastard.

Sincerely,

Garnfellow.
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 11:45 pm (UTC)
Right on! Three Pointe Five Never Dies my friend! I banish your malaise! I BANISH IT! This great game of ours is just too much fun!
[info]99bullets wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 05:37 pm (UTC)
Blood of the Gorgon
Well I'm in even not knowing about Zorbeck. But hey, maybe now I can get a sidebar of a Flanaess ite for my bucks!!

bring it on!!
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 11:46 pm (UTC)
Re: Blood of the Gorgon
I'm betting this adventure ends up working GRRRREAT (Tony the Tiger style) in almost any large urban center!

We shall deliver the goods 99 bullets!
[info]xyanthon wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 06:20 pm (UTC)
I'm in for another round. Looks like this will be a fun ride!
[info]coffeesucker wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
OD #1?
Man, I'd kill or die to get a copy of OD #1 - hey Wolf, any chance of turning that into a downloadable pdf?
-g-
[info]innercaine wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
Re: OD #1?
I don't presume to answer for him. Nor do I think it's possible or likely, however for the record.. I'd be dearly interested as well.

Coffeesucker, check this out for some explanation:

http://wolfgangbaur.com/opendesign/steam_and_brass.aspx
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[info]logophylia1 wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 07:24 pm (UTC)
Level of Participation
OK, as stated over on the Paizo boards - per the discussions there and here - looks like I'm going to have to up my level of participation to the $75 level.

Can't miss out on all the dirt level sandboxing !
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 18th, 2008 11:47 pm (UTC)
Re: Level of Participation
Sandbox Madness!!!

Let's DO this!
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[info]99bullets wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2008 12:19 pm (UTC)
I have no doubt, and am excited to be part of this.

Everyones enthusiasm is incredibly infectious - if only that could be bottled!
[info]bullonir wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2008 01:01 pm (UTC)
Just need my Pay Pal transfer to come through and I'm set! Just give me a couple of days...

Very curious how this will evolve without Wolfgang's "direct" touch...
Welcome aboard Nick!

Patrick
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 20th, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
Thanks Patrick! Happy to be here! This shall be one hellatiously fun ride into madness and horror together!
[info]coffeesucker wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2008 03:09 pm (UTC)
Pass the bottle!
Good morning fellers! It's colder than a witch's...er...broom handle down here in NC, but I got a fire going and hot cup of coffee and I'm still giddy with excitement about OD5!!!
Wish it could be bottled too, bullets! Then we could just pass it around and have a good ol' time!
-g-
[info]99bullets wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2008 08:30 pm (UTC)
Re: Pass the bottle!
coffeesucker - looking forward to "working" with you experienced folks - I just snuck in at the end of Empire so this is my first chance to see the whole project evolve.

not that much warmer in UK, but going out to get a few brews with a bud so lets look forward to developments!
Re: Pass the bottle! - [info]saint_demain - Jan. 20th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC) Expand
[info]akitrom wrote:
Jan. 21st, 2008 04:01 am (UTC)
Honestly, undecided.
Hey, Wolfgang, Nick, all.

I've been a big supporter of Open Design ever since I becme familiar with it. I want to promote the idea, and the products have all been high-quality and classy.

But, I don't know...

Nick, of course, has gathered a reputation that he can, when he chooses, come up with adventures like "Carnival of Tears" and "Hook Mountain Massacre" which are, to my tastes, grotesque in their buckets-of-blood-ness (CoT, where hundreds of innocents can be gruesomely killed) and gore (HMM, where Nick entertains us with various depraved ways for the monsters to act).

He doesn't have to; that he can is a testament to his writing skill; that he does is a testament that his and my players have different preferences in adventures.

So, I'm not sure what to expect, and then on the PAIZO boards, he kindly writes:

Blood of the Gorgon shall be decidedly mature...as mature as the patrons want in fact...especially since it's not for public consumption, so really, I can be as evil as I (and the patrons) want me to be. YAY!

Well, here's one potential patron that does not particularly want a lot of depravity, gore, and "mature content" in my games.

So it sounds like I might want to take a pass on this.
[info]open_design wrote:
Jan. 21st, 2008 04:56 am (UTC)
Re: Honestly, undecided.
Yep, this might not be the project for you. Arabian Nights was much more about heroic fantasy; this one is all about the dark urban mystery, with a decidedly malevolent bastard of a villain.

Probably not a whole lot of slaughter of the innocents/ogres who torture rangers stuff, but ... Well, I'm expecting a truly evil villain. We'll see how it fits with the Zobeck setting.

Most of his WotC material has been a lot more mainstream, and still very strong. I'm kind of hoping for that approach myself, but sometimes you don't know until the writing starts.
Re: Honestly, undecided. - [info]saint_demain - Jan. 22nd, 2008 12:20 am (UTC) Expand
[info]bullonir wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 01:50 am (UTC)
Gothic Horror. Yummy... Thanks for clearing that up Nick.

(I was starting to wonder with all these comments...)

Having an ongoing Ravenloft game, this feels like it'll be exactly what I am looking for!

Any other teasers for this project?
Anything that can be shared about how Wolfgang approached you?

Patrick
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 06:31 am (UTC)
I actually prostrated myself at Wolf's feet, and he said: "yeah, man, go for it!"

I'm pretty pumped to be doing this!
[info]bullonir wrote:
Jan. 24th, 2008 05:54 pm (UTC)
Sent in my payment
Hello,

I just paid through Visa...
Hum... This might seem like a stupid question, but how do you know what my LJ ID is from Pay Pal?

Patrick P
[info]open_design wrote:
Jan. 24th, 2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Sent in my payment
Not a stupid question at all! PayPal tells me your name and email address. I reference prior patron projects to connect that to an LJ name and update accordingly.
[info]valmiras wrote:
Jan. 25th, 2008 02:41 pm (UTC)
I am in for senior, yet again.

Looking forward to it, Nic!

Like Siobharek, I am running a Ptolus game and will be interested in adapting the adventure to that!
[info]saint_demain wrote:
Jan. 27th, 2008 06:30 am (UTC)
Welcome onboard!

I am no Ptolus expert, but we have some among us! We can tap them all to get THE POWER of the conversion notes! :-)

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