It's been a little over one month since Wizards of the Coast announced that they were offering an Open Gaming License dev kit for the D&D 4th Edition. So far, there's been no further communication from them beyond the notification that they have gone "back to the drawing board".
If even the lawyers can't figure out what's going on for 4th Edition, I have to admit to a certain amount of concern. In any case, this note is just to let people know that there is, as they say, no news on whether Open Design and Kobold Quarterly will be migrating to 4th Edition.
Mind you, when there's actually news, I'll be NDA'ed, so this "no news" is somewhat different from the "no comment" you may hear from me later.
If even the lawyers can't figure out what's going on for 4th Edition, I have to admit to a certain amount of concern. In any case, this note is just to let people know that there is, as they say, no news on whether Open Design and Kobold Quarterly will be migrating to 4th Edition.
Mind you, when there's actually news, I'll be NDA'ed, so this "no news" is somewhat different from the "no comment" you may hear from me later.


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Other than an observer. Likewise, as a big Paizo fan too.
What has suddenly struck me is that for 5k you're supposed to be entitled to have an August release.
At what point does that become moot, because there's not enough time for a quality product in August?
I don't need you to answer (but I'm always willing to taken an answer!). I'm not even necessarily anti-4th Edition. It's just early access to the rules has a measurable value in terms of sales, and that value diminishes as time goes by.
It'll be very interesting to see how things unfold.
Go on, take the money and run!"
:)
As a publisher I'm a little more frustrated, because I have to make decisions about articles from freelancers quite a bit in advance. It's tough to accept or reject queries when I'm working in a knowledge vacuum. How will the 4E be received? Heroes or zeros? The lack of data is frustrating.
I wind up usually saying "Well, I guess WotC is fine with me supporting 3E for a while, because they're giving me no reason to move to 4E support."
4.0 will be mostly something I imagine I will merely dabble in at cons.
If you have suggestions, I'm all ears.
I am surprised that WotC still hasn't got the rules out to people yet though. We're now in the middle of February. Given that you need a month or two for the printing side of things, it really doesn't give you a lot of time to get any products out the door in time for the 4E release.
I'm guessing that WotC will give early adopters a couple of months longer exclusive rights to publish due to the delays. I'm thinking that those that don't pony up the 5K won't be able to release products until around March 2009 instead now.
Olaf the Stout
Choose one of th popular classes, and do your own version. One possibility would be the "Vancian Mage." or do up the gnome as a full PC race. There will be demand for these right out of the gate, and there will be lots of people doing simple intro adventures.
In fact, funny situation there. I believe it's basically entirely written but Clark Peterson can't look at it until WotC sorts out the licensing. (The freelancers he used are WotC freelancers who already have access to the 4e rules, but he does not. So he has a finished manuscript that he can't even see!)
Honestly, it shouldn't be too difficult to divide the "intellectual property" they've created for 4th (The Feywild, their new gods, and so on) from the raw mechanics (which is supposed to be free under the OGL.
Edited at 2008-02-12 06:41 am (UTC)
I mean they are planning the 4th edition since years and they did know that man publishers would be interested in using the SRD/OGL/GSL.
I know that they are busy with 4th edition.
But I still think what they are doing is not gentlemen-like.
I mean 3rd SRD/OGL/GSL worked for the first few month with a "gentlemens' agreement" before it was finished.
All those publishers interested in joining 4th edition early have much to loose if they would misuse this GA>
So why is WoC still not ready and/or willing to a GA?
I don't know and I really hope it is not because they do not want the 3rd party publishers to pay 5k and get early access. I hope that this is not a ploy by WoC to have the 4th edition field for themselves for the first 1/2 - 3/4 year. I do NOT want to say anything against WoC! I guess the employess are all nice people and love the game (and maybe even use 3rd party products themselves). But sometimes business is not nice and less competition for a few month might help to sell a few thousand own products more.
They are nice people and most of them do play and use 3rd party material.
Rest assured that WotC is not an evil scheming empire. It is a business however, and at the top are the shot-callers --- this is where the fun stops.
And most of them have written one or more or, in Mike Mearls' case a lot of 3rd party stuff
Nah, WoC is the Damsel in distress. HASBRO is the evil empire.*
That is what I wanted to say
*that was a joke!
Blessed be Ryan Dancey for nailing the door open on the 3.0/3.5 SRD and treating the community (both fans and developers) with open arms and healthy respect.
In a post on their site they were talking about final proofing on the new PHB so I have to imagine that they are working on the license agreement and not the game rules in this particular hold up.
I see it a few ways:
1) The legal department was brought it late, is clueless, or just didn't have their act together, and its delayed because of it.
2) The other products aren't ready yet, and they don't want to have the situation they had last time where stuff pre-empted their own material. They are delaying because there is no excuse once the legal materials are out there.
3) They will delay the other dates previously published for 3rd parties the same amount of time that passes before the legalese is available.
4) They won't move the date, and end up pulling the special treatment for pay situation they have proposed.
5) They won't move the date and end up charging less money for special rights.
I guess there is nothing else to do but wait. This isn't the only thing that has been greatly delayed. Although it doesn't make it impossible to continue, it really is hurting confidence in the new product all around.
I seriously doubt #3 & 5, since it's not as huge issue for WotC if the Phase 1 publishers have to hurry their products' development. The fee is pretty much a bar to keep the masses of smaller companies out for a bit until 4e has some time to sink in enough for distributors and stores to be comfortable with it.
As for #4, I don't see them necessarily pulling it. I can easily see things being so delayed that no one finds it worth it, and there are no Phase 1 publishers. WotC is more likely to force that onto the other publishers to opt out until January than to decide to pull it altogether (either by making everyone wait until January - which looks really bad to consumers, or letting everyone in early - which could bring a glut which looks bad to distributors).
I'm near certain it's some version of #1 - although more of the "it's a very high priority for 3rd party publishers, but not nearly as high for Hasbro lawyers". I'm sure the Hasbro legal department is paid well enough to not be clueless. It's just their priorities don't match the other publishers, and it's a busy, busy world. :)
If the licensing terms arent' expanded to exclusivity next year past Gen Con, I can't see the cost being worth it if they don't pony up the rules "soon".
Or, maybe, they had teams of people scouting places like Candlekeep and saw the outrage and skepticism regarding some of the design choices? Who knows?
But it is pretty weird...
As an afterthought: maybe they needed the 5k per "preview" to buy a couple new exec-cars...yes, I am a cynic...